Host of Elementality, Jordan Haines, CFP®, is joined by Adam Frederico, a personal finance outsider and EOS Implementer. Adam runs and operates a landscaping business and has become an expert in all things EOS (Entrepreneur Operating System).

During this discussion Jordan and Adam talk about how financial advisors can get their business out of their head and implement a system to turbocharge their business. They also discuss how advisors could use EOS as a tool to help their clients get things done.

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Transcript

Welcome Adam to elementality. Uh, you are a unique guest. In that most of the people on here are financial advisors or related to financial advice or financial planning in some form or fashion, and you are not in fact, you, uh, and I got introduced through our COO, Wade Anderson, shout out to Wade. Um, and he [00:01:00] said, you got to talk to Adam, you got to talk to Adam about EOS, uh, which stands for entrepreneur operating system.

Am I right there? Yeah. Okay. So Adam, we’re going to talk all about us today. Everyone listening, bear with us. This has a point. It’s going to be important. And I think we’re going to draw it back to your businesses, which will be really fun. But Adam, tell us about yourself. Tell us about your story. What are you doing right now?

How did you get into this world of EOS ready to go?

Adam Frederico: Yeah. So I’ve always been interested in business. Uh, I’m the youngest in my family and mostly entrepreneurs, um, really not going towards the corporate route. However, after my college experience, which was in business, I went the corporate route. So I saw how a 7, 000 kind of corporate employee organization was run.

And I learned that that wasn’t for me. I just, I have small business in my [00:02:00] blood and started to do research into what other companies were doing in the small business space and actually joined a consulting firm. It was advising. Businesses that were building technology. So we were basically project managers with developers and designers, and we build apps and websites.

And then I switched and really just wanted to zero in on business, uh, in general, not just technology. And this was all in Chicago. And I loved the kind of entrepreneurialism of Chicago. There were so many great ideas and just, um, Really fantastic resources that the city provides. Um, I ended up joining a consulting firm that just worked with small businesses to improve their finance and operations.

So, um, everybody from like RX bar [00:03:00] is a really popular, like a protein bar chomps thing that’s sold through like Costco and all sorts of places. Trader Joe’s. Those were some of our clients. So we were helping them scale up their accounting and operations groups. Um, and I just fell in love with like the entrepreneurialism of America, where you take ideas and you take this really amazing desire to help other people and the community through business.

Um, and I ended up, uh, just meeting so many wonderful people. I went to school to get my MBA. And I had to figure out like, what am I going to do with my life? And my dad, um, ran a landscaping business for about 40 years until I bought it. I decided that I was going to jump into small business and not just consult, but to be an operator.

So for the last four years, I’ve been running that landscaping business. [00:04:00] And we’ve grown our revenue almost four X, uh, created a really fantastic leadership team. And I attribute most of our success to, um, being diligent. There’s certainly a lot of luck right in business, being the right place at the right time, but being diligent in just the basics of business.

And I’ve realized that business is not just the big corporate guys. It’s not just the. The local retail shop, like we all in essence, whether we’re a solo business, we’ve got a smaller team, you still have to do all the same functions of a business. You have to have a marketing strategy. You have to generate that revenue and sell something.

You have to deliver and produce a product or service, right? Then you have to invoice the customer, get paid for it, right? So whether you’re a one person entrepreneur, uh, Or you’ve got 7, 000 people at corporate, right? It’s the same functions.

Jordan: Yeah.

Adam Frederico: [00:05:00] Um, and so I, I got introduced to EOS, which is just a simple set of tools and disciplines to help business owners get a grip on what their strategy is and how they’re going to execute.

And it was transformational for our team to really codify our strategy, define Um, who, um, was going to be on our team based on our core values. It’s just, again, a really simple set of guidelines and principles that’s very tactical. Um, and it’s, it’s really just transformed our business. And so from all the experience that we had in Chicago with the clients that we had, and then me running this landscaping business, I was like, So many more people need to hear about these basic principles.

Uh, it’s not rocket science, but once you get into it, they’re, they’re basic timeless principles that when executed [00:06:00] well, can really help business owners, uh, get a grip on their business and honestly live a better life, right? Cause nobody truly wants to work a hundred hours and burn themselves out, but it’s doing the right things at the right time and setting yourself up.

Jordan: So tell me. Yeah. As if I was a fifth grader, I know I’ve listened to quite a few interviews with people that use EOS. And I remember walking away and I’m like, I don’t, I don’t know what that is. Like there was a lot of stuff in there. So, um, tell me and in the audience is if, uh, you’re talking to a fifth grader or someone that’s just, let’s say like a recent college grad that decided they wanted to launch their own business serving people.

What is Like, what does it look like at a very, very high level? We don’t need to get nitty gritty. I think we can refer people to some awesome resources. That’ll be helpful. How would you describe this thing? I know you say like this, this gives me principles and tactics to be able to basically run my business.

What does that actually look like? Because [00:07:00] intuitively I want to say, I know how to run my business and I get paid and I offer a service and I do all the things that I need to, um, but what does it actually look like?

Adam Frederico: Yeah. And that’s a fantastic question. Um, I think the common thing to go through first is what is it not? It is not software, right? Entrepreneur operating system. There’s no software components of this, but it is a group of tools that cover really the six key components of any business. So the, the founder and really the person who cobbled all this together, Gino Wickman was a lifelong entrepreneur and put all this information into a book called traction and he outlines really any issue that a business has is going to boil down and fit into one of these six key components.

The first is vision. The next is people, then there’s [00:08:00] data and there’s There’s issues, there’s process, and there’s traction. So within each of those six components, there are two tools or disciplines. So for example, in the vision component, which any good business owner should have a direction that they’re going, they have some sort of strategy.

So EOS has a one page document that has eight questions on it. Everything from what are your core values? What is your 10 year target? Really? Wow. What, what could this be in 10 years? So what does the three year picture, how do we really start to crystallize this, right? What is your core focus, uh, you know, your niche, your marketing strategy.

So these, these kind of eight questions start to crystallize for an entrepreneur, for a business owner, what’s floating around in all of our heads. [00:09:00] So that is a specific tool within the vision component. Another example would be the people component. Every organization, right, has people issues. So, uh, it talks through two concepts, which come from Jim Collins book, Good to Great, which is right people, right seats.

But instead of just leaving it as a concept, EOS gives you a tool. Uh, a framework gives you a tool just essentially called the accountability chart. It’s a way to literally define boxes, which are the roles or seats in your organization. And then the various roles or responsibilities within that seat. So you have the functions and the roles that brings clarity to who’s in my organization.

What does this organization really need to look like? And then there’s a people analyzer, again, another EOS tool, which is simply. You, uh, write down all the names of your team [00:10:00] and it’s a yes, no of do they fit your core values? Um, and there’s some other parts of it. So again, very simple tools, um, that are not just theoretical concepts, but how do you take concepts like Jim Collins, good to great and say, yeah, I want great people in my organization, but us tells you how to do that.

Jordan: Yeah.

Adam Frederico: says I have a business, right? It’s not going to tell you. What, uh, what target market to go after? It’s not going to tell you how to price things, right? It’s, it’s organizing and harmonizing human energy.

Jordan: Yeah. So, I mean, if I were to articulate, I mean, to summarize what you are saying here, it sounds like really what this is trying to do is help me get the business outside of my brain a little bit. If I’m, if I’m like a brand new, you know, launched my business and I have an idea for what it wants to look like, and I know how to work with clients and yada, yada, yada, this gives me a framework that I can follow on a really tactical level of do this to make your business an actual business that’s [00:11:00] outside of you, that is documented and you know what you’re working towards, you know, what people are doing, you know, what strategies you’re implementing, things like that.

It’s all out there and outside of your head so that now you can then build upon that. Would, am I accurate in that? Would you shape that at all?

Adam Frederico: no, that’s perfect. Yeah. And another way to say that is it, it brings transparency and awareness to what the, what the strategy is. That’s already in a business owner’s head. Right. Um, and it, and I think for the. There’s a benefit to both sides where the business owner has to articulate what that vision is because it’s got to be on paper. And then every business owner wants any team that’s a part of accomplishing that vision to understand what that is, right? What is it going to take? So we all row in the same direction. So yeah, it is that, that kind of brain dump. Let’s get it on paper so we have something to follow. Um, Yeah, that’s a great, great [00:12:00] simple way to do it.

Jordan: So there’s a lot to this and I don’t think we need to get into this here. If people want to learn more, I think traction by Gino Wickman is a great book. I, I listened to it. Um, and I’ve read it separately about a year ago. It was really impactful for me when it came to like guiding meetings and making sure I’m running my department well and things like that.

I would say though, like one of the big things and the thing that scares me the most when it comes to these business structure, you know, how to run your business type of thing, um, is I think a lot of the people listening to this are, are young people. Professionals, or they’re just new in their firm, like less than five years old.

Um, and they have an idea of where they want their business to go, but there’s still a lot of work that needs to be done to get there. And frankly, one of the things that I often tell people when they come to us and they say, Hey, you know, Jordan, I’m building my business. I want to start this thing. I often tell them like, stop worrying about scaling this thing right now.

Just do the unscalable thing, because you don’t know what this is going to look like in five years. Right. And oftentimes when I look at something like EOS, the biggest apprehension I Is this going to allow me to be flexible? [00:13:00] To have a little bit of autonomy and in changing directions. Now, I know what my answer is to this and I can give a real life example of that, but I’m curious how you would respond to that.

Is, is this something that works for the small business owner that’s brand new and wanting to pivot or change potentially in the future?

Adam Frederico: Yeah, it’s a great question. And I think I’ll start off by saying that there are many different business systems, right, that teach similar principles. I think why EOS is really popular is that it is the most simple, so it is great for having that pivot ability. Where you can say a quarter to quarter, what does my business really need?

And I think what’s fantastic in how we implemented EOS for our landscaping business and what I’ve seen with my clients is that there’s only a few pieces where you’re taking a stab at what the 10 [00:14:00] year strategy is or what the three year plan is, it’s, it’s very rudimentary or, you know, it’s not totally set in stone.

Um, Where EOS is extremely powerful is with that vision in mind. Just what is your 90 day world? All you have to do is try to tackle the next 90 days, right? That goes by really fast for every business owner. And a lot happens in three months with, with clients and services and pricing, right? There’s, there’s a lot that goes on.

So at least every 90 days, you’re kind of relooking at, The, all this paperwork and you’re saying, okay, what did we say about our strategy? What goals did we set? What, what did we say were the three to seven most crucial projects for this quarter to move the business forward? Did we get them done? Are they not done?

And then weekly you’re assessing as yourself or your small leadership team to say, what am I doing [00:15:00] weekly to achieve the quarterly goals, which is after the annual goals. But there’s a constant reassessment. EOS is not a, Hey, let’s draw this stuff up and put it on a plaque on the wall. And it, it sits there for two years.

It is a living, breathing process and documents, um, in our quarterly meetings, just to speak for our example in landscaping, um, we changed things at our recent meeting, we said, Hey, we need to tweak the language here. That’s not really our 10 year target anymore. We need to add this. And everybody’s on board.

We say, great. Yep. This, this is, this makes sense. So it is definitely an adaptable model where all entrepreneurial businesses, um, need to be that flexible, right? Which is my EOS is not for the, uh, you know, S and P 500 type companies. It’s just, nobody’s going to have their kind of small scorecard like that.

Nobody’s going to [00:16:00] distill their vision. Um, to just the two page document. Um, so yeah, I, I definitely think EOS used by small business owners is meant to be flexible and just help you think through that strategy.

Jordan: you know, my own personal experience. Um, and those listening I’ve talked about, I’ve mentioned working genius a lot. I need to do another episode on that. I don’t know, Adam, have you heard of the working genius at all?

Adam Frederico: I have not.

Jordan: It’s great. It’s by a, it’s a model by Patrick Lencioni. It doesn’t have to do necessarily with, um, like it’s not a business system like EOS is, but it’s all about like what areas of work you enjoy or tend to gravitate towards.

Um, for me, I am basically someone who just gets distracted all the time, right? Like I love inventing new things. I love looking at new, I’m a problem solver. Right. I like solving problems, but that also means I get bored really easy. Right. So I want to move on to the next thing. And one of the things that has challenged me most of my career, um, is tenacity related, like execution work, [00:17:00] actually making it happen.

Right. So I’ll get an idea. I’ll get really excited about it. I’ll think through all the moving pieces a little bit. And then I’ll say, you know, I don’t, I don’t, I’m just going to like throw crap at the wall, sees what sticks and I’m just going to do this thing. Right. There’s no rhyme or reason to, to what we’re doing.

Um, And because of that, up until let’s say about 18 months ago, about two years ago, uh, when Wade Anderson joined our team, he is the first person that introduced me to EOS, had me read the book. Um, I was running our advisor success team, uh, small team, but we were working with hundreds of advisors coming through and helping them out in elements and things were changing a lot.

We needed to adapt and we need to be nimble, but we needed to be able to execute around a common ideal, a common vision. And I think up until that point, we was just kind of like reacting. We were just reacting to things and I was allowing myself to get distracted and move on to the next thing and maybe do like a two week cycle where I’d move on to another high value or high interesting thing to me.

And once I implemented something like EOS, I would say that the biggest thing to me. Um, about it was this [00:18:00] idea of a quarterly rock, which you teased a little bit, this 90 day focus, right? It was like, Hey, in this 90 days, we want to achieve something. And we’re going to do these things to achieve those things.

These are our rocks, right? With the visual that like the rocks are the foundation of this. And then you can add pebbles and sand and water. We’ve all heard that before, right? These rocks are the most important things. Whereas before I would flip it on its head and I’d be reactive to everything that came my way.

Anytime a customer asked me to do something or an advisor at a question, I would just respond to that rather than saying, Hey, The most important thing for me in the next 90 days is to do this. So, um, that I think has been one of the most important things. And obviously there’s a lot more to this around people and vision and these things that help us run our business.

So those of you listening to this, that might not have a natural tendency like I do to be detail oriented. To be highly tenacious to execute well. I think something like this is so infinitely valuable for advisors. I’m curious though, what, what you think, um, as well, I think a lot of us see ourself [00:19:00] as like a self employed person.

Those listening to this have their own business. They don’t have any people on staff. They, they work with, you know, 50 to 60 clients. Um, maybe they want to grow this and make a little bit more revenue, but maybe they just want to keep it small so that they can have what we call a lifestyle business. Is that someone that you feel like would work well with a system like EOS?

Hmm.

Adam Frederico: What’s really fascinating is as I’ve really tuned into this movement and I feel like it is gaining a lot more awareness. Uh, I’ve noticed that more people are using it even in their personal life. Right. Because it is their, their basic principles or basic tools. Um, I’ve heard of many families, uh, using that two page vision document of like, Hey, what are our core values as a family?

Or, you know, what do we believe? You know, what is our, our 10 year target? Like, uh, we hope to, you know, have a [00:20:00] beautiful home and, you know, The valley of wherever, right? Like there there’s goal setting and then breaking it down again. So, okay. What’s, what’s really crucial for our family in the next 90 days, right?

Or even as an individual, I think we, it’s not natural, at least for me and maybe most of the friends that I, uh, talk with like goal setting is a little bit of this nebulous, uh, concept of like, yeah, do I set weekly goals daily? There’s, there’s annual, uh. Resolutions. And maybe you’re coinciding with the calendar year, right?

Like there’s, there’s so many different things out there. I think the principles of EOS can be very applicable to very small business, business with a team, an individual, a family. It’s really, uh, and I mentioned this one, you know, time before, but this, this harmonizing human energy. Right. And there’s, there’s groups everywhere.

There’s organizations. You don’t have to be a company. You could be a sports team. You could be, you know, [00:21:00] all sorts of different groups, but we’re Just humans trying to accomplish things. And so not every single tool will go super well. If you’re an individual, right? Like I’m not going to do the accountability chart.

Like, well, I sit here and I also do this. And so like, you’ll be in every seat. Right. Um, but the, the disciplines, the weekly accountability, the. Quarterly rocks and goal setting, having some sort of direction, even if it changes that 10 year target, three year picture, I think is, is really powerful. Even the there’s guidance and tools around processing issues.

And I think there’s not anybody that I’ve met that says they don’t have issues, right? There could be family issues. There could be business issues. Um, like we said, there’s just so many different group dynamics and I think it’s, it’s just part of that. suite of tools that potentially we can [00:22:00] have that will help us live a better life.

And it, yeah, it doesn’t really matter what our organization is. You know, I think there’s tons of applicability. Yeah.

Jordan: that I have, which is. I wonder if for you financial advisors listening, is there a world we, we are in the business Adam, um, as financial advisors, we’re in the business of helping people do things right. Finances are scary. There’s a lot that has to do with finances.

Oftentimes we’ll get to people and I remember early on in my career and still to this day when I talk to people, sometimes I’ll come up with a list of a hundred things that they need to do. From insurance to investments to budgeting to tax plan, you name it, right? Like there’s hundreds and thousands of things we can ask people to do.

I would say, and I was like, okay, random side note too. Here’s me getting distracted a little bit on this call. I got a text from, um, I got a text from an advisor friend of mine last night. He sent me a link to an article [00:23:00] and, uh, I’ll see if I can link to it in the show notes for those listening. But the, in essence, the article said, As financial advisors, when we do a financial plan, 20 percent of our clients are actually doing the things we tell them to. I know in my own life, I don’t do just about anything my dentist or my doctor tells me to like, like it is so hard for me to execute on things. I’m not naturally inclined to do that. My wife is great at it, which is why I rely on her for a lot of things. Personally, I have to have my systems and my processes and my wife makes fun of me because I have these routines that I need to stick to because if I don’t, I’m not going to get them done.

And so back to my wondering question, I wonder if. Something like us, like the principles, the disciplines in that could be applied in a financial advising relationship where we’re trying to encourage people to do things. The reason I’m, I’m interested in that idea is like you mentioned, I like this 90 day cadence, right?

They’re almost like you need to do something in the next 90 days. You have this remind me of the vision. There’s a 10 year. [00:24:00] Objective, a three year picture. What, what’s the timeframe? How does that break down?

Adam Frederico: It’s a 10 year target, three year picture, one year plan. And then you start to break it down quarterly.

Jordan: It almost feels like it’s, it’s doable when you get down to that quarterly room. Like in my own life, when people say, where do you want to be Jordan in 10 years? Like, are you going to be at a financial advisor? What are you gonna do? Honestly, I have no idea. I have no idea. Like I, I know roughly what the next three weeks are going to look like beyond that, who knows what I’m going to be passionate about then.

But I really like how we’re breaking this down because it’s focusing on what we can, like the 90 day rock is mostly what we can control. The three year picture of the 10 year, like objective or plan is kind of big and hairy. And frankly, I don’t know if that’s actually the right thing, but we will know at the end of this 90 day period, we will know at the end of this one year goal, it’s one year plan.

And so it makes me think. Out of any of these systems, I like this one because it’s a little bit more nimble and it, and it falls in line with what we pre shared elements, which is when you give financial [00:25:00] advice or you ask clients to do things, we need to do it in today’s terms, not in 30 years from now, right?

We need to say, this is what the next few months are going to look like. This is what you need to do. Uh, right now is what you need to focus on. And here are the things that we’re gonna do right now. We’re not gonna do everything. We’re gonna do these things to help us achieve this goal in the next 90 days and year, so on and so forth.

So I think that’s really fascinating because I think one of the, one of the hardest things advisors have is generating those goals, making it digestible and making sure that people are actually moving forward. Curious if you have any thoughts about that. I know we’re kind of diving into a realm that you don’t live in day to day, but you know, EOS and you know, this building businesses.

Adam Frederico: yeah. And I manage my own personal finances.

Jordan: you do it yourself. Uh huh.

Adam Frederico: Yeah. We think about, uh, yeah, for example, debt payoff, right. And maybe really scary to say, wow, I’ve got a hundred thousand dollars of student loans and like, yeah, you maybe are not in a situation to pay that off in the next couple of weeks. Right. And so breaking it down to say, okay, I maybe three year [00:26:00] picture, I would be like, okay, I’m envisioning, I’m debt free I’ve paid off my car.

To travel with that money instead, right? Like you’re, you’re envisioning that picture, but the principles of us are going to have you break that down to say, okay, well this quarter, then like, okay, what are we going to set aside or what are we going to say no to? Maybe that destination wedding, you know, doesn’t need to happen.

We’re going to say no to that and funnel that over. And then pretty soon, right? You’re a year, two years into it. And. You said, wow, we, we did those quarterly steps and now our three year picture is actually the reality where we’re debt free or traveling or whatever the financial picture is, I think as human beings, right?

We do have a tendency to, uh, we’re both excited about a big vision, you know, 10 years into the future, if we are able to, um, you know, put words to that, But we’re [00:27:00] also super scared of that, right? Like, Oh my gosh, that’s just, that’s such a big number. I can’t imagine suddenly having a net worth of X amount.

Like, I don’t know how I’m going to get there. And so what happens is you just go back to your daily routine, right? So you can have this beautiful goal setting plan, you know, a planning meeting with a financial advisor and you’re all excited. Yeah, we’re going to pay down debt. We’re going to do X, Y, Z, but then you got to go back to work.

You got to do these things. And so if there aren’t these tangible, Goals or somebody, um, helping you be accountable to that, to make those steps. If you’re going to have that spike of engagement, maybe once a year, if you meet with a financial advisor only that often, right? So I think having the discipline and rigor of these shorter moments, I think.

Help anybody with a personal goal that they have.

Jordan: Yeah. Well, you heard it here first. Financial advisors, um, do EOS in your business. That’s a great place. But those of you who actually want to test this out with clients, I want to hear [00:28:00] all about it. Cause I’m really intrigued by this idea of bringing it to our clients and implementing some of the principles.

We’re not going to have like a smooth functioning, uh, business machine in our families, but you know, we can, we can adopt some of the principles here. Um, let let’s finish up with this, uh, Adam, what is, what is like one. Key thing about us that you want advisors or those listeners who are, are hearing this conversation for the first time, what do you want them to know or take away from this?

And then I’ll let you do a shameless plug and talk more about you.

Adam Frederico: Yeah. Yeah, I, I think. We’ve talked about some of this, but I think it, it warrants repeating that it is approachable and it’s applicable. Um, it is one of the books that when people read it, it’s not just theory, but they’re, they’re tangible tools, right? It is not, um, just ideas, but actual paperwork. So, you know, I think what.

We as EOS implementers try to [00:29:00] convey, right? One of our core values is actually help first. So we just want more people in general to be, um, absorbing these tools and living a better life. Uh, whether you. Do the whole, uh, you know, kit and caboodle and just dive right in and you’ve got a perfect business that’s gonna adhere to all these tools or Yeah, you’re an individual advisor or just somebody in a family.

Um, I think the applicability should not, um, yeah. The EOS as a whole package should not just be a, we’re doing the whole thing or we’re not doing it. There’s so much applicability and, and you can use it. Um, certainly there’s a lot of benefits with. Using more of the tools, you know, if you’ve got a standard organization and a leadership team, then it all starts to harmonize really well.

But there are so many tools and principles within the ecosystem of EOS that are applicable. So I think [00:30:00] anybody should read it just to improve

Jordan: I think that’s one of my favorite parts about the system. I tend to have an all in or all out, uh, mindset on most things, which is why I don’t do anything because I’m like, Oh, I’m not going to exercise if I don’t do seven days a week and four hours a day, you know, like I’m, it’s all in or nothing. Um, and I actually think that EOS is really great because it doesn’t require that.

Um, I mean, even at elements, we’re not like an, I wouldn’t classify elements as an EOS business. The one thing that we do implement that we do in our, uh, our team is weekly meetings. We, we basically do the EOS way, which is, you know, you address the rocks and action items and, um, issues and things like that.

And then we do these 90 day rocks. And those are like the big things that we do at elements. And there’s certain things that, that maybe, you know, I think if we were to implement more, we probably would be a little bit more efficient. We’d know a little bit more, but it has worked really well for us to implement even just those few things.

So advisors listening, if you’re curious, if we piqued your interest a little bit. Go buy the book, listen to it. That’s how I first did it. Listen to the book traction by Gina Wickman. Um, but Adam, you mentioned you tease [00:31:00] this word, um, EOS implementer. There’s a whole industry of EOS implementers out there.

Uh, you’re one of those. So, so shame with plug, talk about what you do. If people want to get in touch with you, um, tell us just more about that.

Adam Frederico: Yeah, absolutely. No, thanks for this opportunity. This has been a fun conversation. And again, with that core value of help first, uh, there are over 800 Bye. Bye. Professionally trained implementers across the globe. So really, no matter where you are, there’s probably a neighbor down the street that has been trained in the system and is ready to help.

Um, and what’s fantastic is that don’t have to, uh, there’s no contracts. There’s no like signing up for this multi year thing. It is also just incremental. Um, if you just want a, a, a. The very first step is a free 90 minute meeting where we cover all the concepts, give you all the tools. It’s all in the book.

It’s public domain. There’s nothing that we hide behind the curtain. What an [00:32:00] implementer does is just help apply this to your business. So, um, it’s just, it, it goes much better, um, when you have that accountability coach and somebody who’s trained in the principles to guide you through the journey to get the tools up and running and help your business.

So I just encourage everybody definitely read the book. Uh, you can go to EOS worldwide. com and find like a local implementer. There’s meetups that happen for businesses that talk about EOS. There’s probably six or seven podcasts that EOS themselves, uh, distributes, and there’s other books even in the Traction library.

So Traction is one of them. They have a book on people, a book on process. So there’s just a wealth of information out there. I’m happy to be a resource. If anybody wants to, uh, you know, find me, find me on LinkedIn, Adam Frederico. Um, you know, uh, always happy to take a phone call or answer an email or see how this could help somebody in their life.

Yeah.

Jordan: We’ll send people your way. We’ll include all of these things in the show [00:33:00] notes. So those listeners can go there. There’s a lot more to this. It’s hard to do this in a 20, 30 minute conversation, but I think we’ve done a pretty good job at them. Um, any parting thoughts that you want to leave with people? Or do we get it all?

Adam Frederico: Um, no, no, this is awesome. Again, you know that there’s, there’s so much to living a better life. And I think if, if everybody felt better in their jobs and in their careers, they, you know, we go home happier. We’re a little bit more refreshed from a weekend, right? So anything that we do to improve ourselves, I think is a worthwhile endeavor.

So let’s, let’s go after it.

Jordan: Let’s do it. I love it, man. Well, with that, we’ll leave you on your way. Thanks for coming. Thanks for joining us, Adam.